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December 2008 
Excellent Video about the Most Important Issue - War
Posted on Dec 21st, 2007
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Jim
Jim
Ron Paul - Baton of Truth
My friend Grant Walker made this new video, It is powerful, and important. If there is one calling the zaadz community can all agree on, it is to end this conflict. It is bankrupting us financially and damn it, it's just plain wrong. Whoever you choose as your candidate for president, make your voice heard for peace.
Regards,
Jim
Access: Public
Dearest Jim,
That was a flatuant piece of propaganda that made my blood boil and my stomach turn! How dare he compare himself to Robert Kennedy? He is NOTHING like him. And to proclaim he is the only candidate that will 'bring them home' is a lie. Kucinich said it LONG BEFORE he did AND Kucinich did not vote for the war (which by the was was an 'invasion' and is now an 'occupation').
Also, to proclaim America as being a 'neutral country' re: WWII? How 'neutral' were we after Pear Harbor was bombed? America's response to that heinous act was justified making us complicit, certainly NOT neutral.
I don't get all you intelligent people rallying behind this man. It just doesn't add up for me. He absolutely gives me the creeps. He reminds me of Rev. Jim Jones.
Soozi
Interesting comments. I'm glad it made your blood boil and your stomach turn, it's not a light entertainment piece, it's designed to make people think.
The comparison to Kennedy was very acute; no party support, massive grass roots support and an anti war platform.
I don't think it says 'only candidate to bring the troops home'.
The video suggests that America was neutral until Pearl Harbour.
He gives people the creeps because he makes people think.
I beg to disagree. He gives me the creeps because his following is too cultish. I am an avid politcal student…I read everything and know the issues at hand. He hasn't made me think past what I already think. His message resonates because he is touting abolishing the IRS. That in turn has given him critical mass to push forward his presidency. I'll bet you more than half his followers have no idea what his formal platform is on any of the issues save for abolishing taxes and the Federal Reserve. Push comes to shove, I don't care for his message on health care. I believe only in a single payer, universal system. Health care for human beings should NEVER be profit driven. As I've said before, I also don't trust doctors. :-)
I think you'd be surprised just how normal the majority of his followers are. And I think you'd be further surprised just how well informed they are.
Most people would agree that health care should never be driven by profits, or housing, or shelter, or food…
Have you ever spoken to Friend Stacey; you have alot in common.
Soozi,
I've looked at Kucinich and liked what I saw. He voted against the war. I sense that makes him good choice! So did Ron Paul. His cultish following is because he has integrity. I think everybody knows that main stream politicians sell out for campaign contributions. Conventional wisdom propagated by mainstream media is anything but wisdom. Mainstream media is owned by big business.
Big business makes lots of money on the war and doesn't give a damn what harm they do to the country or how many people get killed. Mainstream media's opinion is bought and paid for, so they support continuing conflict because that benefits their ownership. I don't think this is a secret. The polls that they quote are a joke. The “fringe” candidates like Kucinich and Paul will do much better than anyone expects. News has become propaganda.
Paul grass roots support is not propaganda, its the strong opinion of many Americans that their politicians don't listen to them or represent them anymore, but serve special interests. The mainstream media is busy denying “absurd” conspiracy theories. Everyone laughs at the idea of government not acting in the best interests of the country, but check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSe8_1U7ryk
Ron Paul is the only candidate running on issues. Lower taxes are a big issue with voters. Eliminating personal taxes increases personal freedom and standard of living, productivity, innovation, and everyone's well being by a multiple of 5 except the parasitical elite. This would create an economic explosion unlike anything since the the industrial revolution.
Remember the Clinton Presidency? He couldn't do anything wrong economically. The economy was bullet proof. Well economic activity lags behind tax policy. Perhaps you remember the Reagan tax cuts that everyone said would backrupt the country. They created the Clinton economy.
There are few if any honorable politicians left in Washington. The order of the day is graft; corruption, unearned advantage, and special interest. Freedom be damned, they've got their contributors, constituent, and personal special interests at heart, and we are merely pawns in the game. The media spins this to make these Jack Booted thugs into heros. Well they're not. Why are we in Iraq - Oil and war profiteering. You know it, I know it, but does the media say so? Nope. Stay the course, finish the job. They are merely paid propaganda. Paul is the only candidate telling the whole economic truth.
The only candidates clearly speaking out against special interest, political, media collusion are Kucinich, Obama and Paul. Are we government property to be herded, controlled, directed, “HELPED-fleeced”, and denuded of rights. Will you stand by and watch tyranny disguised as safety destroy our liberties?
Our rights and constitutional protections are being dicarded at an alarming rate. HR1995 Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act is the latest example. It effectively destroys freedom of speech. Tha Patriot act, The Law of the Sea Treaty, etc. directly attack individual and National Soveriegnty. The memorandum establishing the North American Union is signed already! It violates the constitution, and is another example of an imperial presidency which does not give a hoot for the constitution, your rights, or rule of law.
The voters just want to quit wasting money and lives there. Paul is clearly running on the issues. He has only grass roots support, but is raising money as well as candidates selling their vote and the soul of this country for a mess of pottage. This is truly comparable to the original American Revolution, and based on the same issues.
Your freedom is worth more that the advocacy of false ideologies that sacrifice individuals to an imaginary collective good, and supports propagandized hatred of profits. This election is clearly about individual freedom, versus collective slavery. Ron Paul is the most dynamic candidate running and has clear viable alternatives to business as usual in Washington. Collective good can not logically claim the moral high ground while advocating harming some members of society to presumably help others.
Force and violence are simply force and violence no matter what spin you put on it. We must all join forces to demand liberty, or quietly bow our heads and walk quietly down the long dank cobwebbed path to obscurity and irrelevance. . See the beauty, natural birthright, and wisdom, that freedom is the natural state of man. Naked aggression, violence and force are not tools of peace. But your vote is. Vote for liberty.
Regards,
Jim
Enjoyed reading this one, thanks Jim.
Ok, let's put it this way……..Paul has no chance, now what?
How many Americans think this war is right?? I'd say very few, and they're all unchangeable far-right republican bushies. Even a lot of them have begun to question it.
So now that we know all this, and that Ron Paul may not even win one single state in the Primaries……….now what?
I'm a libertarian. I listen to a LOT of what Ron Paul says and say “Right on” but that may not be good enough.
jt
As I watched the video I said to myself “This is why libertarians don't win”
Here are my concerns:
1. Why was it necessary to try to say that “an incident” was required to enter WWII? Is this an allusion to 9/11? If so that's not cool. And is the implication that Pearl Harbor was fake? or “inside job”? That's odd to me. Would Ron Paul have NOT entererd WWII? one of the MOST just wars ever?
2. Why was it necessary to say that Ron Paul was “one of Reagan's earliest supporters”?
3. Republicans don't want Ron Paul. They want Mike Huckabee. They want a christian fundamentalist liberty squashing followup to Bush. Or, they might vote for “9/11 Rudy” because they also like hate and fear.
4. I found the connection to Robert Kennedy also odd, and to show his murder and then compare himself to him was at the LEAST very odd and unnecessary.
Whoever put this video together should be fired.
Peal Harbor most certainly wasn't fake, but there have been chapters dedicated in some very boring benign history books suggesting that America may have been forwarned and may have refused to take reasonable action to stop it. Before 9/11 Pearl Harbor was considered to be America's biggest intelligence failure. The video doesn't say this but this may be why people think of this when they see 'incident'.
Regan/Paul picture is real nice; I like it and I use it alot.
The connection between Paul and Kennedy was very acute; ie end the war campaigns. Comparisons should always be made with history; without comparisons there may be no lessons.
Can't be fired, because I don't get paid to do this stuff.
You did that for FREE???
Did you have to pick Peter Gabriel???
You're fired
;)
Where would we all be without Fee out there fighting communists and socialists, steering the distracted back on to the ol' beaten path of the 'great american way' of just shutting up and doing what you're told.
It's bad enough sledging me all the time, but Pete, well that's where I draw the line.
Jim, everything you said I have posted previously on various pages here at Zaadz, especially concerning the media. I am in the entertainment business so I follow closely all things media related. It makes me want to puke.
The FCC no longer protects the American people … Michael Powell, thankfully gone, now Kevin Martin are just patsy's for the media conglomerates … Rupert Murdoch/Fox, GE/NBC, Viacom/CBS, Disney/ABC and Tribune Corp/Superstation WGN. Don't even get me started on Clear Channel. These big conglomerates control the airwaves and newspapers with their huge campaign contributions and high power lobbyists. I think no one should be allowed to own more than ONE newspaper, ONE television station, and ONE radio station. Could you imagine the educated dialogue this country could have if this were the case?
A while back, I posted a comment in one of the pods for the people there to do a simple exercise in order to find out who controls their local media. I asked them to take out their phone book, find the numbers for their radio and television stations in their area, call each one and simply ask 'who owns your station?' I don't believe anyone did it.
You can't find a more vocal critic of this administration's erosion of our civil liberties, which are supposed to be protected by the constitution, then me. Here's a question for you … why don't the schools teach civics anymore? No wonder the populace stays silent most of the time, or goes to the polls with zero information on the REAL issues of the day … most don't even know how our government works! There is no involvement because the interest has been removed at an early age.
How about the Homeland Security training going on with our nation's fire fighters? They are being trained to SPY on homeowners when they enter a place of residence in an emergency, even down to making notes on what BOOKS the people in the household read!
So much of what we are fed daily is so distorted, it is difficult at best to sort fantasy from fiction. Let's start with Fox News 'Fair and Balanced'. Wha? They are THE most biased news organization in the U.S. The Patriot Act? The most heinous erosion of our civil liberties. How about the privatization of our military? Now that is really scary.
But back to Ron Paul. I think the thing that irks me the most is his anti-choice position. I am sick to death of white men in America continuing to try to control a woman's reproductive system. If this man were to become our President, a woman's right to choice would be even more precarious than it is now with Bush's neo-con extremism and recent judical appointments. We must remember the next administration could possibly appoint 2 or 3 justices to the court (which is another subject that irks me … even the Supreme Court has been corrupted under his watch).
I also suspect Ron Paul is homophobic, as he was the co-sponsor of the Marriage Protection Act. I think gay union's should be legal, period.
And GW…NO, I wouldn't be surprised how normal his followers are. My friends who died in Jonestown were very normal American citizens.
Thinking back to Jonestown makes me recall Leo Ryan. He was my congressman. I voted for him and really liked him alot. Did you know he was one of the earliest critics of L. Ron Hubbard? He was also a history teacher at my high school.
Soozi
Most of this post was amazing, thanks for the great read.
For the rest, I guess that's why we have differenet candidates and differenet parties, and that's why democracy is a nice idea.
Ron Paul wont touch abortion and I wouldn't have thought he would be interested in marriage either. You must understand that his main aim is to limit Federal government, leaving all tricky issues including abortion to the states.
Your most welcome and yes, democracy IS a nice idea. :-)
My personal utopia would be no jurisdiction at all … a woman's womb has no business in ANY legislature, be it the federal or the state. I think it would be even worse, however, left to the states.
The only persons who should be making decisions concerning a fetus are the mother, the father and the doctor … clergy if invited … and any judgment resting with God.
Fee,
I would judge from your comments that you didn't like the video. Reasonable minds can disagree, I like it. It did generate more negative comment than I would have expected, so you might want to re-evaluate all of my prognostications. Thank you for weighing in with your thoughts regarding conservative values and what conservatives are looking for in a candidate. My comments weren't directed at magnifying partisan differences, I was attempting to isolate the actual issues in this campaign that transcend just rooting for the home team.
As to who is going to win the election, Fee, you're in investments and I'm sure you have access to experts with indelible credentials that you can quote that would support your thinking. That's nice, but I'm going to share a little secret with you. Nobody knows. I'm guessing, you're guessing, and the experts with the indelible credentials are guessing.
I use to live in Nebraska when the state had paramutual betting on horse races. I actually hate to gamble, but couldn't avoid the track. Clients, friends, family would visit and demand an outing at the races. What I hated about gambling was loosing, I rather enjoyed winning, but not as much as I hated loosing. There's something I learned early on at the horse races. There aren't any experts. At best they can tell you which horses enter the race with all legs intact and with jockeys that finish the race and don't ride backwards.
My system was simplicity itself. Realizing the universal incompetence at predicting a winner, I avoided favorites like the plague. I looked at the experts' selection to weed out the cross eyed nags and bungling jockeys, but would usually end up with four or five of the field that some “expert” said was their pick to win or place. Realizing this effort was a lot like predicting the winner in the greased pig catching contest at the county fair, I didn't waste a lot more effort analyzing it. I take my subsection of the field and watch the odds and bet at the last minute the horse with longest odds.
I seldom lost money with this system. When I won, I won big. The times I did loose were when I doubted the system, questioning what everybody knew that I didn't. Then I'd put my bet on something “safer” according to everyone else's opinion, and damn the long shot would come in. So the idea that Clinton, Obama, Huckabee, or whoever is going to win or that Paul, Kucinich, or Biden don't have a chance is what we used to euphemistically call at the county fair Bovine Fecal Matter.
We all filter information to support the conclusion we reached before we started the analysis. So I'll just cut to the chase. Ron Paul is going to win. Of course we'll only know when they're done counting. Thanks for weighing in with your perspectives. But, just in case I'm right and you don't like Paul, you better start beating the pavement for your candidate. It's the only thing you can do to discourage people from thinking for themselves. Actually, I encourage you. I think your style might actually lead to more self directed thinking, c'mon Fee support your candidate.
Regards,
Jim
Thank you all for your comments.
Reguards,
Jim
Settle down there Grant, I happen to really like Peter Gabriel and especially old Genesis.
I don't have to like the video. I do like Ron Paul, and would pick him out of all the Republicans hands down. Luckily, his competition is really horrible.
This particular thread has nothing to do with socialism, but I do see a 9/11 conspiracy nut I want to get to next……..
Jim, I didn't like the video because I thought it was a poor job at marketing to me the reasons why I should vote for Ron Paul. It's his libertarian concepts of smaller government, more liberty, and bringing home the troops that make him compelling. But this particular video seemed more appropriate for Kucinich maybe…….
As far as saying that it's a lock Ron Paul won't win, I'm just going by reason, not by media or where I work. Just like I know Kucinich won't win. I don't need someone to tell me that they're not going to win. However, I'm not saying that people shouldn't vote their conscience. I always vote for the libertarian candidate even though I know we're going to lose.
You'll probably find this interesting.
http://www.lp.org/media/article_545.shtml
And the lamb lies down on broadway…………
Is that Kate Bush?
I liked the video Grant. I always say i don't know if there is a Holy Trinity but i know for sure there is a unholy one:Banks,Corporations and Government! It seems more then just coincidence to me that 120 million people have died since the establishment of the Central Banking practices married to the military industrial corporate agenda that plys their trade via feeble politicians….I would like to see an experiment done where a country prints up it's own money and banks are only alllowed in the corporate/free market area with strict limits on interest rates. Maybe a 5/10 percent flat income tax…………i think some country really ought to try this just to see if it would work.
hey jt: how do you define socialism? Is universal health-care a bad socialist no no?
And sorry the Bush/Clinton White House shall remain….All good conspiracy theorists know that the left/right has no practical distinction anymore……..The Unholy Trinity Wins!
Hey there Andrew. I never thought about whether or not I found my own personal definition of socialism. If it were to be for something like national health care then Canada would be a socialist country and I don't think so. Marxism, Socialism, Communism……people who are clearly far to the left……beyond just “liberal”.
Ever hear any Genesis from even earlier than that? Really good stuff. When I got into them more I never realized how long they've been around.
Hey Jim, Fee, Soozi, GW:
Let me filter in an unmentioned issue here. Has anyone thought about the “Silent Majority”? These are the ones who have sat back and do not say anything at all until it affects their bottom line. Then Beware because they come out in droves and seek to eliminate the top ones or at least put a huge chink in their armor.
I tend to be one of those silent majority because that is exactly what I do. I sit back listen to all and then at the last minute go an cast my vote without saying a word, …………… unless it affects my direct bottom line. Then you can not keep me quiet.
In effect there is a minority that goes to the polls to vote: approximately 75 million in comparison to the total count of all of the registered voters in the nation.
Ron Paul has had donated to his campaign $10 million from grass-roots alone without any solicitation from his Campaign at all. His Campaign done nothing to organize the Rally's all around the country to raise that amount in just two days of the efforts of the Grass-Roots by itself. In total Ron Paul has over $19 million in fuding raised for his Campaign. Again over half of that comes from just two days of work by the Grass-Roots.
I really do believe the Silent Majority will pull the strings to put Ron Paul in the White House and it should be up to the rest of to protect him, once he gets there, since our real home defenders are off in Iraq and not home protecting the rest of us. The US Citizenry is the official Militia of this country and as loyal Citizens for our own protection, we must all step up and defend what is ours from the git-go including our candidates too.
Robert Kennedy and JFK ,in my opinion, were both set up for assassination from within, because of their policies of hands-off in foreign affairs. The political War-mongers could not afford to have their livelihoods disrupted by a person who was standing in their way. Unfortunately, LBJ was one of those who wanted the involvement in the Wars for monetary purposes in the long run. I personally, think LBJ was too much in debt to the Federal Reserve and needed the War to bail him out.
If by “Silent Majority” you mean “lazy non-voters” then that's their problem. If it's the quiet who don't get caught up in polls and quietly show up to vote, then that's cool. But, rarely does this “silent majority” end up defying the polls. Except maybe when it's close. Ron Paul is not close. Raising more money than people thought he would (or less), is not going to make a difference at the voting booth.
I couldn't agree less about the Kennedy Assasinations. They were both killed by freaks who lucked out.
Remember the Bush/Gore election and to a lesser extent the Bush/Kerry election…….I live in NY…..but I vote libertarian. The thing about NY is that you KNOW the democrat is going to win the state……just like you know the Republican is going to win Texas.
BUT! If I lived in Ohio, or Florida, I would not have that luxury, and probably would have voted for Gore and Kerry. My wife “traded” votes……she voted up here for the libertarian candidate but her friend in FL voted for Gore and Kerry…..
Ya'all! ….Ron Paul is popular because of ONE THEME and ONE THEME ONLY … he has promised to eliminate the IRS!!!! He has raised 'big money' because of this one issue … NOTHING ELSE! Oh, sorry, I lied … he also has the support rabid crazy anti choice people who blow up abortion clinics, the homophobic nut jobs who want to dictate who can and who can't get married, as well as those who just want drugs legalized. Again…I don't know how many times I am going to have to say this … but Ron Paul's support is totally the FRINGE element!
That said, if the fringe element comes out to vote, we all might have to run for the hills! :-)
Soozi
I sense Ron Pauls candidacy has little to do with his abortion position: which is that it is a state issue, not a federal issue. The real issues are ending the war, supporting the constitution and individual rights, and yes reducing taxes and eliminating the IRS and the Federal Reserve. All of these issues are wrapped up in one big one, freedom versus slavery.
Everyone advocating more governmental solutions is in favor of slavery no matter how they gift wrap it. Paul's positions simplify to protecting individual rights to property, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And RR is right, the grass roots support is going to come out in droves.
Fee maybe you missed the straw polls, Ron Paul won 22 out of 44. Maybe you missed the internet polling, Ron Paul has been a consistent winner. Maybe you missed the internet traffic reports on Alexa, goggle, yahoo, and live Ron Paul consistently generates more search and traffic than any other candidate. Maybe you missed betting odds trends. I know its hard to bet against the favorite. But conventional polling is missing the enthusiasm, and increased caucusing activity that Ron Pauls candidacy will create. Paul's fund raising success is clearly indicating this reality.
I'm not just making this stuff up, and I really sense that mainstream media is trying to pull the wool over voters eyes. I would advocate that the internet has become a bigger force in opinion formation than mainstream media. And, that it's not just a fringe opinion of libertarian or anti abortion, or anti tax sentiment that Ron Paul is tapping. I sense that he is tapping the core of what being American is all about - Freedom.
I sense support for that issue is stronger, less partisan, and deeper than anyone realizes. I'm not just being obtuse, I sense that that issue is powerful enough to transcend standard election partisan rhetoric. Ron Paul's core issue is non-partisan. It's not anti anything, it's pro-freedom! I honestly concieve that he can win. Actually if you take the names off the trends and just “look at the charts.” He's a shoe in.
Regards,
Jim
I ran accross this comment by Kelly Preston in Lew Rockwell's newsletter in an article talking about counterculture support for Ron Paul it may convey why the support seems “cultish”
“Reasons aplenty exist as to why those on the margins or bottom of society should support Ron Paul, some of them quite serious and pressing. One of these is economic. At present, the American ruling class is pursuing a path of economic suicide. Current economic policy is an extravagant combination of currency devaluation, extreme fiscal recklessness, public indebtedness and trade debt that is unprecedented and unparalleled by any other state in the world, massive importation of cheap immigrant labor, corporate-mercantilist so-called “free trade” arrangements like NAFTA and the proposed North American Union and much else whose eventual effects will be full-on economic collapse of the kind not seen since the Great Depression, perhaps worse. For the Great American Middle Class, economic collapse will bring lower living standards and perhaps even relative poverty. For the “underclass,” lumpenproletariat and marginal sectors, the result will be devastation, destitution or even death. Ron Paul understands this perilous economic situation to a degree that his rivals, Democratic or Republican, do not even begin to comprehend.”
His issues ARE that important!
Regards,
Jim
after having your good friend ban me from his pod and then block my access to it, and send me an email metioning my own father………I've gotta say, I'm going to be hesitant about giving my valuable time and energy responding in areas where I could get the same. I'm going to have to learn to be choosier about what pods I accept to. But, it's cleansing to at least have a handle on that.
So I'll back off here. Ron Paul is not a cult. He's a libertarian republican……..and no, he doesn't have a chance to win. He has some fine ideas, but a few wacky ones that causes people to make goofy videos and follow him around too much.
Thank you
Fee,
I admire your independent thought, and I can understand your perspective. My objective in pointing out alternate perspectives is not to challenge or change your perspective, it is to show a broader perspective than most people have of current reality.
The following article is from gambling 911. Betting odds continue to improve for Ron Paul, and many people have yet to hear of him or his perspectives. Betting odds trends are a better lead indicator of election results than polls.
“Ron Paul Tied in Iowa For Third
CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds has made it clear: Ron Paul is no longer a fringe candidate for the 2008 US Presidency. His campaign is now tied in third place in Iowa where even his own loyal supporters questioned if he could win there.
And in live-free-or-die New Hampshire, he believes his anti-Iraq war, anti-tax, pro-freedom message with its libertarian tinge may resonate.
“People are flocking to the campaign,” says Paul. “Maybe they've been starved for a campaign like this.”
Paul's trip to Plymouth was promising: one woman told Reynolds that he was following the next president.
“Absolutely! No doubt,” she says.
Last week, Ron Paul's campaign raised over $6 million in a single day. He's raised close to $20 million this quarter.
Paul is listed with 10/1 odds of becoming the next US president at Sportsbook.com He is virtually tied there as well with Mike Huckabee at 9/1 odds and Mitt Romney at 8/1 odds.
Listening to the mainstream news media daily it is as if there is a new frontrunner among Republicans every day. Last week, Mike Huckabee was the darling of the press, this week it's John McCain who is showing signs of life. Yet one constant is that Ron Paul continues to rake in tons of cash from his loyal supporters and now even the polls are starting to reflect his enormous popularity.
—
Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.com Publisher CCostigan@CostiganMedia.com">CCostigan@CostiganMedia.com
Originally published December 23, 2007 12:29 am EST”
Source: Gambling911.com
Regards,
Jim
There is an EXCELLENT article in Mother Jones regarding Ron Paul that explains his popularity quite succinctly. He has a lot of terrific ideas but I would never vote for an anti choice candidate. I know you men can't understand that. Next time around, should your gender change, you will. :-)
Soozi
Hhhhmmmmm! Thanks for the support Jim!
I agree with Jim, that the one main theme of Ron Paul IS “Freedom”, and that is the “total essence” theme of the RP Campaign. Yes, elimination of the IRS and the Federal Reserve is one of the proponents of the campaign, and I have a really hard time understanding why people continue to “Volunteer” their tax payments to a Corporation, who does not even support our own Government here, but does its best to undermine and bankrupt this whole country.
Fee & Jim: Sorry to hear of the discrimination towards you, Fee, because healthy discussions make for good reading and expressing of opinions. Needless to say, there are some who take issues to heart as a religion for their own beliefs and then use the propaganda machine to ostracize, because it is not inside of their own mainstream policies.
As for mainstream media, those are bought and paid for by others who feel they NEED to incorporate a slavery type into the societal level. (Bankers and Big Corps own the media and dictate their religion or beliefs for their own propaganda) So it becomes really really hard to believe what the media puts out as being “Honest Truth” as the rest of us would prefer. The best way to learn the issues, is to go and listen to the candidate and get it right from the “horse's mouth”, than hear it from a biased 3rd party such as the media. The media and those who own and control them, only want you to know what THEY want you to know. I feel this is exactly what the media was presenting with the last election, so their issues got out to the public to get the public outcry for the media support.
Internet communication is becoming the fastest growing type of media and also has its problems too with propaganda being spread across it too. BUT, if you search hard enough you can find the “Truth” if you look for it. Some have criticised Alex Jones for his rantings and ravings, but let me tell you, what he has said on his programs have actually come up on the Washington Post online segement almost 2-3 months later. I have actually heard Alex state an issue and then have read it in the Washington Post two months later, exactly how Alex stated it. Alex tells you not to believe him on his word, but go and do your homework and research to find the truth of the matter. Critics think Alex is a nut-case too, but how come what he says comes out in the mainstream press later on?
When raw feeds of information produce the news, and independent news agencies and conspiracy programs bring it to light before the mainstream press is ready to release it, then who is really doing the cover-up in all essence? Mainstream media and their owners are eventually being forced to produce the facts, when the independents scoop the news on them. Needless to say, propagandists deny the news, until mainstream has to reveal it, but they try to release it later on, so people will forget about the independents bringing it out first, so they think.
I don't think the mainstream wants the public to know that Ron Paul is gaining extraordinary steam right at this moment, because that undermines their candidate's possibilities for a “Win”. If you look at it closely, there are literally millions of people on the internet, a lot of them looking at these dumb YouTube videos (one of the more popular video sites besides MySpace), and soon the lightbulb will come on in their heads as to the real truth of the matter. All of the candidates have videos on YouTube in all respects, so now there is a chance for people to look at any issue that needs to be brought out. Thousands have viewed those videos too, since they were added there.
The computer industry is one the most integrated industries that does not come under governmental legislative jurisdiction, followed closely by internet use. Have you noticed that legislative action has been effectively shut down when laws were produced to limit communication on the internet? Even the FCC has no jurisdiction when it comes to the internet. So there is a faction who is honestly trying to keep governmental control to a minimum by supporting the internet and its “Freedoms”. If Governement had its way, they would own the internet, and you could not produce your views on here, without their permission or their effective methods of censorship. Give credit to the independents for keeping the internet open and free for all of us to express opinions and to find the truth if we wish to find it.
RR - David
p.s. Soozi what makes you think Life isn't a choice anyway? If you can not make your own decision and have it come under the jurisdiction of legislators even for “Right to Choice” then, where does your authority come from? It comes from the legislators in the end, when you succumb to following THEIR laws, THEY proposed and passed!